Meze 99 Neo Around-Ear Sealed Headphones

Meze 99 Neo ($249)
Just over a year ago I wrote about the preceding Meze model 99 Classic and liked it very much. The Meze 99 Neo is a very similar headphone; the most significant differences are that the 99 Neo has a plastic housing vs. the wooden capsule housings of the 99 Classic, and the earpads have been changed to be a bit larger on the new model. Due to the nature of my findings, I'm not going to do a full review here of the new model, but will rather dive right into what I see as a problem with these new cans.

In my previous review of the 99 Classics I wrote this about the earpads:

My point here is that the 99 Classics are actually more generous front to back than the others, and a little under average top to bottom. Depth is hard to measure, but it did seem the 99 Classics were on the shallow side in the group. So, yes, I find them cozy around the ear, but not cramped relative to others in the category. I had no comfort problems in long term listening other than them getting a bit warm after a while. But just a bit.

It turns out that while my slightly smaller than average male sized ears didn't have too much problem with the 99 Classic, others did commonly complain in on-line comments. Like any responsible company, Meze took these comments to heart and started working on a more roomy earpad for the 99 Classic. Evidently, there's been a couple of iterations of this pad, and version three is already shipping on the 99 Classic and came on the 99 Neo sent to me as a pre-production sample.

Any DIY headphone hobbyist who has spent any time playing around with earpads will tell you small changes to the pad can create some very significant differences in sound quality, so I was quite interested if Meze managed to make a little more room in the pads without harming sound quality. I'm just going to mix subjective and objective observations together as I explain what I found. I Measured both the 99 Classic and 99 Neo with both the new and the old pads. If you'd like to see the full measurement sheets I'm put them together in a little .pdf booklet here.

The first thing I noticed when listening to the new 99 Neo was that the bass seemed a bit stronger and looser with more distortion; and also seemed more boxy sounding than the 99 Classic. When I went to measure them, I found their seal very sensitive; either they sealed really well, and created a big bass hump, or they didn't and there wasn't much of a bass hump.


When I do my measurements, I can watch the 30Hz square wave on an oscilloscope as I position the cans on the measurement head. With the 99 Neo, the square wave would switch between the bass heavy response (red plot above) to the more bass light response (green) with very little stability between. In my experience, this happens when the headphones have a very tightly sealed ear chamber. Many manufacturers have damped venting systems for the ear chamber to reduce this problem.

I spent some time subjectively comparing the two headphones and felt the older 99 Classic was significantly clearer and uncolored sounding, so I decided to swap pads and remeasure to see if the difference was just the pads or if there was some other differences in the headphones as well. In the two sets of plots below, I compare frequency and impulse response performance for all three permutations of the headphones.


In the plots above, you can see that the raw frequency response plots (gray lines) that are taken in various positions around the ear show significantly more variability with the new pads compared to the old pads. I have to say that with the new pads I did try to make the measurements as close as possible, but did include one of the oddly sealing measurements in each set with the new pads. My point here is the graphs might have looked quite a bit more variable had I not been trying to keep the measurements as consistant as possible with the single exception.

You can also see that the 99 Neo has an inflection in the FR curve at about 400Hz with both pads, but with the new pad there is quite a bit of tonal change occurring around this frequency. Variability with the old pad is again less, but the inflection point remains. The older 99 Classic does not have this inflection point, so I expect there's something else different between the two headphones other than the pad and housing material.


The above plots compare the impulse responses of the four permutations. It's pretty clear that the 99 Classic has significantly more noise following the initial transient with the newer pads. It's not quite as clear with the 99 Neo, but subsequent noise is slightly lower.

After listening and measuring, I feel like Meze has gone backwards with these pads. The sound is more colored and uneven, and changes to the sound with headphone movement on the head is clearly audible. The new pad has taken the 99 Classic from "excellent" to "also ran" status. I preferred the sound of the ATH-M50x to either Meze when using the new pads.

I will be requesting a current example of the 99 Classic and a production sample of the 99 Neo to reconsider the 99 Classic's "Wall of Fame" status.

Bansaku's picture

I have been rocking the new larger ear pads for about 2 weeks now. I myself had a WTF moment once I first swapped pads on the 99 Classics. Have you broken them in? The sound (with the 99 Classics) really falls (back) into place once the pads loosen up, especially the bass. Then again, I am not too sure if the larger pads I received are V2 you speak of, or the same as the larger ones on the 99 Neo. I would inquire about that with Meze when you put in your request.

Martin.'s picture

I'm happy that they have addressed the issue of the tight pads. I had the impression that they looked very cheap and thin. I have a V-moda M100 and the stock pads were hurting my ears after 1 hour, so although I loved your review of the Classic 99, I was very skeptical of the pads. Wonderful that Meze listened to its customers, but sad that audio quality was compromised. Looking forward to your updated review on these.

gibtg's picture

Thanks for doing this homework Tyll! By the way, is this possibly a similar situation to what happened to Sennheiser's Momentums in the 2.0 model when they made the pads larger?

MLSensai's picture

Hi Tyll,

I also got a pre series sample and figured out the same issues with the pads and the changing of sound.
I also own the pads from maple/silver 99 Classics and the black pads, a little bit bigger, and the new ones coming with the 99 Neos. (Btw, do you also have a Classics headband attached?)
The Neo pads are the most comfy ones but also the soundwise most bass delivering. Up to 300Hz 5db straight to much.
So I ended up in swapping pads with the Shure 840 pads. With them the Neo sounds fantastic. But the pads have a little to big diameter and do not fix completely satisfying. Second pro is with them the measurement problems become less.
Could you try this on your own?
What do you think about it.

Best regards

Dadracer's picture

I had the early 99 Classics and really enjoyed their sound quality and ability to image despite being closed backs. I got the 2nd gen pads from Meze and I have to say I didn't notice any significant change to the sound quality but they are more comfortable to wear for longer periods as my ears don't get so hot. Maybe you should compare all the pads to get a definitive answer?

tony's picture

They make these things in Runs, probably 10,000 or so, then re-order. If the product sells well, the company will continue ordering and their bean counters will locate a "better" supplier offering better pricing, etc,etc...

This sort of thing is "everyday" practice in most companies with larger production runs.

There are a few consistent quality manufacturers, they typically make the "higher" priced stuff : Sennheiser comes to mind as does Starrett ( a tool company ). Festool is another example.

I'd suppose that all of us have our own "List" of "Consistent Quality" Companies, I'd put 3M on the very Top of my "List"!, as a GM Corp. guy I'd put Toyota on the top of my Car Company list! ( I'll wash my mouth with soap as soon as I hit the Save Button ).

The very best thing about this report is that Innerfidelity IS reporting it. I have Innerfidelty on the Top Position of my Audio Reporting List. I'm proud of you.

Tony in Michigan

jdnyc614's picture

I actually had two pairs of the 99 classics side by side for a few days. One with the old pads and one with the new. The difference using the new pads was like listening to the 99 classics through a wall. The bass easily overwhelmed the other frequencies with the treble struggling to get through. If you read reviews on the head-fi forums you'll notice the reviews start to tank after the new pads were made standard. The recent reviewers can't understand why these are so popular. I hope Meze takes note of this review and reverts back to using the old pads as standard. They can sell the larger pads separately for people who don't mind sacrificing fidelity for some additional comfort.

Mark Up's picture

I was a tester of this (and Classic before). I prefer the Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 ear pads (in black of course). Got them on EBay for less than $10 (shipped to me from an American location) new. They fit more comfortably (not quite as soft, but same thickness so there is a bit more space between the ear and driver for comfort and spaciousness. Sonics are better. The highs are similar, just a bit more extended, yet still not harsh. Low mids are cleaned up, mid bass is a bit too. Sub bass is as good or slightly better. Stereo imaging is a little better too.

This mod will make them a bit more snug on your head if you have a really large head as I do. So if I end up with a pair, which is likely, I'll do that and my "big head mod" which is taking off the metal clasps holding the self adjusting headband to the outer metal rings. It's so light (and will be a touch lighter without those and the band) I don't need a cushion and I will eliminate any problem with increased clamp the new pads could cause. There is a special tool needed, a Torx T6 screwdriver, to remove them, but those are cheap and found with an easy Google.