The Surprisingly Good Logitech UE6000 and UE9000

Logitech UE6000 ($199) and UE9000 ($399)
Amidst the avalanche of new personal audio gear recently released under the Logitech UE brand (InnerFidelity article here), are two full-size, around-the-ear, sealed, noise-canceling headphones. The Logitech UE6000 is wired, while the UE9000 adds wireless Bluetooth capabilities.

Physically, the two headphones are fairly similar. Both are gloss and matte black plastic primarily, with gray and blue accents, and appear to be very well built. The ear-pads are medium density memory foam covered with protein leather, and the ear-cup size is not particularly large, but is fairly deep, providing a cozy but quite comfortable fit.

The headbands are substantially different. The UE6000 is similar to the Beats Solo allowing the earpads to fold inward for compact storage in the included soft case, while the UE9000 ear cups rotate flat for less compact storage in the included hard case. The gimbals and swivel of the UE9000 headband are an all-metal construction, which appears to be very sturdy indeed. Headband padding is more ample on the UE6000, and while the UE9000 padding is a little more sparse and the headphones slightly heavier, I found both headphones to be quite comfortable for fairly long listening sessions. Like many sealed cans, I think these would be uncomfortably warm in hot, humid climates.

Both headphones come with four foot long, Apple compatable, 3-button remote cables, which are terminated with a 90 degree angle mini-plug. Cable entry is on the right earpiece for both headphones. Cable accents on the UE9000 are black, while the UE6000 is blue throughout.

Logitech UE6000 Features
The UE6000 electronic features are simple and straight forward. A button on the bottom of the left earpiece releases the ear piece cover and reveals a compartment in which two AAA batteries are inserted to power the noise canceling circuit. I think using AAA batteries for noise cancelers is a good idea as it permits replacement of dead batteries at airports.

The noise canceling circuit is activated by a sliding switch on the top of the right earpiece. An adjacent led glows green when powered on with good batteries, and red if batteries are low. It does work---and rather well as we'll see shortly---when the batteries run out. Simply turn the switch off, and it works as a passive sealed headphone.

Logitech UE9000 Features
The UE9000 has a nicely thought out set of features. With the power off and cable attached it works as a passive sealed headphone. Turn the power on and the noise canceling circuits are enabled. A small LED to the rear of the switch will glow green when batteries are charged, and red when batteries are low.

To use it as a Bluetooth headphone simply remove the cable and slide the power switch forward and hold until the blue LED (forward of the switch) blinks rapidly to indicate it is ready for pairing. Then go to your host device to complete the pairing. One interesting thing of note is that when pairing with my MacBookPro, and setting the system preferences for sound output, the UE9000 had selections available as both "UE9000 Bluetooth Headset" and "UE9000 Bluetooth Headphones". The sound quality was much, much better with the "headphone" setting. The UE9000 uses the Bluetooth 2.1+EDR protocol, and pairing was straight forward and simple.

When operating wirelessly, volume and tracking controls are on the rear of the right earpiece, and are intuitive and simple to operate. When wired, these controls are disabled in lue of the on-cable three button remote/mike.

A "talk through" button is on the top of the left earpiece. Push it once and the music is muted and mikes are opened to your surroundings. Perfect to hear the stewardess' ask if you'd like peanuts with your soda. The talk through feature is enabled only while wirelessly listening to music, and is unavailable while on a phone call or during wired operation.

Physical Overview
The more time I spent with these cans, the more I liked their physical qualities. It's rather easy to take for granted simple, straight forward industrial design in the world of ever gaudier headphone bling these days, but after a few days I really began to appreciate the handsom, understated looks and very nice build quality of these cans.

With regard to styling, ergonomics, and features, I think Logitech UE have produced a couple of winners here...the remaining question is: How do they sound?

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COMMENTS
Phos's picture

I dunno if I'm just missing it or something, but does the 9000 allow for non noise canceling opperation over wireless?  

Tyll Hertsens's picture

...no. Noise canceling is active when ever it's "on".

ScaryFatKidGT's picture

Wow! I was going to ask this too. Deal breaker for me. I really like the looks and metal on the 9000's but I guess il save $200 and go with the 6k's if I did.

 

Being how good these sound I really wish they would ditch the noice cancelling gimick and take $50 off the price.

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Dinny FitzPatrick's picture

I think the AAAs were a last-minute change because iirc, when I met with them, they were very much pro-rechargeable and anti-alkaline.  I see the pros and cons for both, but I prefer the ease of having AAAs.

Del7a_Kris's picture

Can you give me the name of the stand please? Im looking for a nice stand for my Beyer DT880 Pros, and so far the omega looks very appealing but the one above looks nice too.

Tyll Hertsens's picture

You can find them here:

http://www.klutzdesign.com/CanCans-headphone-stand.html

kixxit's picture

In the article you've referred to the Logitech headphones as being the best "sealed" cans you've heard lately.  If so, how do they compare to the AKG 500's?  You seemed to be pretty impressed with those as well and I believe they are "sealed" cans.

hifi_dude's picture

In the video review he said the UEs sound much better than the K550s.

Tyll, can you elaborate a little on the comparisons? Are they better across the board or in certain aspects like lows/mids/highs/soundstage etc..

I own the Denon D2000s and am looking for a reasonably priced upgrade.

Thanks

Tyll Hertsens's picture

The K550 sounds a little more open, but has a somewhat artificial sounding treble.

The UE6000 sounds better balanced and a bit cleaner, but it's also a bit boring sounding.

In the end I preferred the UE6000 because of the balance, and the isolation is a bit better, too.

ulogin's picture

Hi Tyll,

How would you compare the SQ of UE6000 with Sennheiser Amperior, which is also on your wall of fame?

Thanks.

Tyll Hertsens's picture

I'd say the overall balance may be better on the UE6000, but the Amperior is more articulate and punchy...though a tad bright.

wilzc's picture

They look ...  rather similar to the Ultrasone Edition 8s!!1

 

HMMMMMM

 

Especially the 9000

hifi_dude's picture

Yeah, those were my first thoughts.

I love the Ed8 design so I don't mind them copying that at all!

Qwasd's picture

Hi,

I'm planning to buy the UE 9000 for use on public transport so I would like to know how the isolation of over the ear design and ANC compares to basic in-ears? Also another important thing that I would like know is how good/bad is the noice leakage on these?

Tyll Hertsens's picture

I think the UE9000 probably doesn't leak too much sound---the seal is pretty good. 

In-ear headphones have far more isolation and less leakage than other types.

lubczyk's picture

This UE9000 being preferred over the AKG K550 purprized me. Is the soundstage bigger with better imaging than the AKG K550?

Tyll Hertsens's picture

Yes, I think the imaging is better on the UE.  Actually, that was one of the big surprises on these cans: Usually, really good imaging cans have really fast and transparent treble.  The UEs treble seemed pretty ho-hum, but the imaging seemed quite good to me. Go figure.

ssoedi's picture

Hi. I am currently looking for a pair of good headphones. I am not an audiophile, but I appreciate well balanced, well build headphones that can last for a while (3 years or more) without any problem.

I am interested in Sennheiser Amperior and V-Moda Crossfade M-80 until I read this post. I like the look of both UE 6000 and 9000. I do not have the money to purchase the UE 9000, though. I, however, do not like batteries (that is why I am interested in Amperior and V-Moda).

I am a student, so I want to listen to my music without interupting others. I also do not want to be completely oblivious to my surroundings. I listen mostly to rock, jazz, blues, soul, and acoustic. I do listen to R&B sometimes, but I am not fond of thumping bass.

After knowing about UE 6000, I am considering noise canceling headphones (unlike Bose, the music is still on when the battery is off.)

Do you have any recommendations for me?

Thank you in advance.

~ssoedi

Tyll Hertsens's picture

They're all up to the task, but this statement "I am a student, so I want to listen to my music without interupting others. I also do not want to be completely oblivious to my surroundings" makes me think the M-80 might be the way to go.

ssoedi's picture

but now the question is: Does the M-80 leak? How bad is the leakage? Is the M-80 cheaper than the UE6000?

Tyll Hertsens's picture

They're about the same price.  

The M-80 leaks a bit more than the UE6000.  The thing is you say you want no leakage but want to remain somewhat aware of your surroundings.  You can't really have both. Isolation and leakage are essentially the same thing. More isolation=less leakage. The M-80 is a decent compromise. But if you don't want any leakage, the UE6000 is better.

ssoedi's picture

I wonder which one you would personally get/prefer. M-80 or UE6000?

Thank you for answering my questions, Tyll. I never really know whom to ask.

USAudio's picture

It's all subjective and one man's (expert) opinion, which I value and visit here often.

As there are no real expensive headphones here in the full-size sealed category, so I assume the UE's are judged to be as good sounding as the vastly more expensive higher-end cans like the Ultrasone Edition 8's and Signature Pro's?

I wish there was a UE version available that didn't have all that bluetooth, active noise cancelling, etc. stuff and was just a pure, closed, quality headphone.

Dinny FitzPatrick's picture

FWIW, one of the reps at the launch party asked me, "ok but what do you guys (meaning headphone geeks) really want to see next?"  I said something non-noise canceling for certain.  Then look to the high end offerings from Senn, like the 800, give it some more bass, and undercut it on price.

Tyll Hertsens's picture

The Monkey wins.

John Grandberg's picture

As a user of sealed cans (by necessity) I am still not quite clear - are these to be considered top sealed headphones? Or just better than most of the failures like Sony Z1000? 

I already have most of the important high end models: Thunderpants, Signature Pro, Lawton modded Denon D7000, top Audio Technica Woodies, Edition 8, etc. Should I bother with these?

Tyll Hertsens's picture

It's probably worth you having a listen at an Apple store, John. I'm still a bit stunned, and to be truthful, am looking forward to other's impressions. I'd prefer them over the Ed8, SigPro, and prolly the ATs (they tend to be a little bright to me). TP and Lawton D7000 are probably better. 

The thing to me is these seem so nicely balanced and clean...not as resolving as I'd like, though.

peterroumian's picture

there's a new definition of stupidity
buying solos over these

one question Tyll
how do you compare these to the HD598 ignoring the sound isolation of course

Tyll Hertsens's picture

...but I remember the 598 as a bit thicker sounding than these. Again, not as well balanced. But I might be off on that comment. Been too long.

aznmage27's picture

I already have a pair of DJ1 pro's but i feel like the s-logic is a bit hollow sounding and it was too bulky for portable use, was looking for something different.

Finally, I narrowed it down to the HM5, the M50's and the UE6000. The price difference doesn't bother me that much, but which one would be better sounding. I care a lot about soundstage, clarity, instrument separation. Bass would come second.

Tyll Hertsens's picture

Personally, I'd prefer the UE6000.

dalethorn's picture

My UE-6000 sounds good (but bassy) in Active mode, but in passive mode I get just a faint sound on the right side. I tried all combinations of battery in and out, switch on and off - same result. I've heard that you had problems with the UE-4000's, so I'm wondering if I have a defective set of UE-6000 or maybe I'm missing how to get Passive mode working.

Tyll Hertsens's picture

I'd swap the cable just to check, but it sounds like there's something wrong with them.

bluepromo01's picture

I just found nice headset like these and some brands are very rare to find in the markets. But this kind of headset keeps me relax when i used to hear some music, hopefully i can buy another one. .best buy promo code

melvin's picture

I'm interested in getting the MM450 for noise cancelling purposes. Is it ever going to be reviewed here? I also noticed that it does not have a measurement here in your site. Does it sound somewhat identical as with the PX 360?

Tyll Hertsens's picture

I might review the MM450, just got to get my hands on a pair for an extended time.

I didn't like the PX360 all that much. Quite grainy, as I recall.

melvin's picture

Thanks man! I appreciate the response. :-) Looking forward for the review then.

mat321's picture

Tyl, how does ue6000 compare with vmoda m80 in terms of sounds?

Tyll Hertsens's picture

The M-80 has a bit more presence and snap, I think. The UE6000 a bit more relaxed.

roma101's picture

Hey Tyll - first post here but longtime admirer of your reviews. I was wondering if you thought UE6k sounded better than two cans I listed above. What I care about is how natural a headphone sounds - from drums to guitars, how well and realistically they decay and how tonally accurate everything is reproduced. Do you think the UEks have the upper hand when it comes to those attributes? It's nice to know they image well.

Thanks in advance for your input and thank you for the time and effort you put into these reviews.

- Roma

Tyll Hertsens's picture

I'd say the UE6000 is the more natural sounding can.  The CAL has a bit more artificial sounding treble. The Shure is a bit thick in the bass. 

roma101's picture

Thanks Tyll, looking forward to hearing these.

jonayo's picture

Does it work well with an iPhone in passive mode? 

Indianna18's picture

Hey I am worried that the base will be too heavy and boomy even in passive, some reviews have stated as much, i am tossing up between the AKG 550's and the EU 6000 for general purposes - gaming, music and movies. What is the soundstage like in the UE 6000? Does anyone have any opinions? thanks

Tyll Hertsens's picture

I answered your question on Head-Fi, but I'll answer it again here:

I wouldn't call the UE6000 bass heavy and boomy, I'd characterize it as warm. I didn't hear much bloat or boom in the bass, just a little emphasis...just a little.

TT's picture

Tyll, great review!

How would you compare both vs. ED8 Sound Signature?

Thank you,

Regards

Tyll Hertsens's picture

I find the sound of the Ed8 to be nicely balanced, but somewhat hazy and indistinct in the treble (due, no doubt, to the S-logic). The UEs Are cleaner and tighter, but may not have the top octave energy that delivers air and finesse.

TT's picture

Thanks Tyll, ended up buying an Edition 8. Got a nice opportunity, a great deal and bought it.

For $250 more than an UE9000 I thought it should worth a try.

 

Regards

dawei1993's picture

Thank you so much for your in depth review of the UE9000s. I saw your video on youtube as well, which was fantastic. I just had a few questions about the UE9000s and I would really appreciate some answers. 

1. Do the headphones use battery when using via the cord? 

2. Are the earcups aluminum?

3. Are these Android compatible as well?

Thank you very much in advance. 

thunderous's picture

HI,

I am kinda newbie into headphones. Your review has helped me to make up my mind on the ue6000. I got it few days back and you are right, they are very good. I have a question on whether it is possible to replace the stock batteries with the rechargeable AAA batteries. I'm afraid that it might spoil the headphones. Cheers.

Tyll Hertsens's picture

Shouldn't be a problem.

bobby's picture

Hello Tyll,

How does UE6000 sounds comparing to the beyers DT880 250 ohm?

Thanks.

Tyll Hertsens's picture

Well, the 880 is an open headphone, so it's not a very direct comparison. The 880 is brighter sounding, and a tad lean in the lows for me.  The UE6000 is not as quick and articulate, it sounds more closed in. It's a warmer sounding can as well.

bobby's picture

thanks, Tyll

AlexAlexAlex's picture

Hi! How would you rate the UE6000 compared to the T50p, Fischer Audio FA003 or HD25-1? I need a headphone with pretty good isolation and good overall sound for rock and metal.

Tyll Hertsens's picture

T50p is too colored to me;  and the Fischer too strident.  The HD25-1 is fairly good, but a bit to bright for me. I think the UE6000 is the better can of the bunch, but I like things a little warm and rolled off.

chubbyone's picture

Hey Tyll,

Thanks for your awesome reviews! I want a pair of closed cans to use with my iPad/iPhone just for casual listening. I recently owned the Grado SR80i's and found the sound too bright (and somewhat painful) so I sent them back to amazon, somewhat defeated. I have since narrowed my searching down to these two headphones. I can get both for $200 so ignore the price premium of the MMM. Which wins, UE6000 or SkullCandy MMM? Thanks!

-Shane

Tyll Hertsens's picture

I feel your pain on the Grados. 

I think the UE is better than the MMM.

david.parker83's picture

and lo and behold the UE 9000 on sale is the earlier production unit with a rechargeable micro-usb port instead of replaceable batteries.  They must have produced quite a few of these models before changing their mind.

 

I wonder what other subtle design changes might have gone into the updated model.  Hmm...guess I have 14 days to return this one and get the replaceable battery version.

david.parker83's picture

My wife noticed that the display model in the store was the replaceable battery edition.  I will email customer support and see which edition they decided to stick with.  

david.parker83's picture

Think I confused the display model for the UE6000 and UE9000.

The only comment I have about the micro-USB port is it doesn't seem to snap in and out very easily at all.  Removing it is more like prying it...and the pressure required feels unsafe (could damage the unit).

 

I'm thinking about exchanging it.  Probably a manufacturing defect.  These headphones sound AMAZING though.  Holy cow.  Perfect amount of isolation for sitting on the backporch.  Listening to a Fred Hersch album and piano was sparkly and full sounding. Really can't believe these are sealed cans.  AMAZING.

david.parker83's picture

that I purchased an after market micro USB-B cable and it snaps in and out much better than the stock cable.  With the stock cable I was seriously afraid of damaging my new cans.

Reticuli's picture

How well does this noise cancelation work with irregular noise, like a pa system running in the background?  Is it better for sound like subways and airliners?

david.parker83's picture

but would at least lower the decibel level of a pa system.  As far as noise canceling, it works really well for me.  I live in Oklahoma where we get some really noisy wind this time of year.  Had some work to do in my garage while streaming some tunes to my headphones.  Completely covered up the noise of the wind...which is not exactly constant in frequency.  My guess it would mask midrange pretty well from your pa system, but the treble energy would probably leak through a little.

 

I've been pretty impressed with how fun these things are for doing things around the house.  They amplify the bass energy from footsteps a lot so not an ideal walking headphone.  I leave them beside my recliner because they are so easy to throw on for a quick pre-bed listening session.  They mask the noise of your spouse showering in the next room really well too.  As well as air conditioner noise and fridge noise.

Modern homes are just noisy as hell.  Drives me nuts. 

Cavcalade's picture

Great review! I would really appreciate it if you could find the time to review the new Harman/Kardon BT's and compare it to the UE 9000 (as far as possible).

 

Thanks!

 

Greetings from Stuttgart, Germany

 

Alex

henryfu's picture

Hi,

       I just want to know that based on the sound quality, which one of these three would you recommend the most? THANK YOU!

 

Logitech ue6000

V-Moda Crossfade M-80

Sennheisser HD 25-1 II

david.parker83's picture

Full sized can and sounds better to my ears.  However, maybe you value portability or durability in which case I'd go M-80.  Strictly sound I'd go UE6000.

laqra9's picture

Honestly which would you recomend? Im looking for a good pair of headphones that will last and have good sound quality. Ive heard good things about the 2 headphones up above. Which would be better to purchase? or more worth my money?

david.parker83's picture

If you want to pay more for bluetooth audio, get the UE9000.  With the caveat that you are using a rechargeable battery that will eventually go bad (not be rechargeable) and need to be replaced.  Keep it away from hot temperatures and it should be ok for years to come.

Otherwise go UE6000 and use the extra money for something else like a portable headphone amp.

 

password123456's picture

I'm having trouble deciding which headphone to buy between

Ath-M50 and UE6000. m50 cost $100 and ue6000 cost $199 on Amazon.

which one would sound better all-round? and is there a huge sound difference between  those two products?

NZtechfreak's picture

I'm wondering whether you've had a chance to hear the 9000s in bluetooth mode from other sources Tyll? Reason I ask is that with the possible exception of the Macbook Pro none of your playback devices mentioned in the review are actually Apt-X capable, so you weren't hearing them in the 'second mode' as you speculated.

So, basically its possible that they can sound even better over bluetooth than what you had heard at the time of writing the review.

I'm interested to know since my Galaxy Note 2 IS Apt-X capable, and the wireless option of the 9000 could see them take a place in my (already overblown) headphones collection.

fazman's picture

I love the sound of the shire srh 840...but do not want to buy it unless there is a way to use a 3 button iPhone remote cable attached to the headset (2.5 mm connection). Any suggestions for a 3 button cable or adapter that will give me the 3 button functionality? I talked with Shure and they did not have a solution.... Thanks...

Chethpen's picture

Hello I just want to know which one is better sound (not noisecancelling)? Bose QC 15 and UE 6000. Thanks

david.parker83's picture

But I'm not sure why you would buy the Bose QC15 for any other reason than noise cancelling.  That is the only reason to buy Bose QC15.

Lovebass's picture

I love bass, I had some ibeats earphones and I love the bass and are these better than dr. Dre studios? UE 9000 are what I'm talking bout 

Tyll Hertsens's picture

But if I were you I'd look at the V-Moda M-100.

 

A Basshead's Delight: The V-Moda Crossfade M-100 

Oommm's picture

Hi

I need your expert advise. I am weighing up between the UE9000 which I like for the flexiblilty of the blue tooth to not be restricted by the proximity of the source ie. length of the wire. But on the other hand I also like the way the Amperior sound with the improved alluminiun cups and also they are pretty indestructible as everything seems to unclip and easily reassembled but they can look abit cheap. I do find the UE9000 abit over heavy on the bass as the headphone seems to almost vibrate away from my ears whilst listening to a track by Usher but I thought they sound quite nice. Aso they are quite cumbersome in size. Noise cancellation is not a must for me but can be an added bonus when I am flying. The Amperior can sound a tad clinical I think. I have a very wide range of music from Joni Mitchell to John Coltrane to Missy Elliott.

BTW, just a slight concern on the health side of things, are bluetooth not that good or is it more the Wi-Fi that we need to be more concern?

Thanks

Tyll Hertsens's picture

... not sure what your question is?

JohnMiller's picture

Hi,

Which one should I buy, Sony Mdr 1r or UE 6000?

Thank you John

NZtechfreak's picture

Hi Tyll,

I guess you haven't got the chance to try the UE9000 with an Apt-X capable playback device? Would love to hear your feedback on the difference. Will have a listen myself shortly anyway, found them at a very decent sale price so might just grab a pair.

Probably worth adding a correction to your review in relation to your playback devices not actually having Apt-X as you speculated.

Chrisknos's picture

Hi, 

I compared both the measurement graphs for both passive and active modes for the Logitech UE 6000 headphone. It shows no signs of treble boost at all. My 6000 headphone however, showed a noticeable boost for both bass AND treble when I switch from passive to active, as well as sounding very veiled in passive mode.

Does this means that I have a defective model just like Dalethorn's?

Thanks.

Chris

intown's picture

Hi Thanks for the great review and site.  just purchsed them from the logitech store. They sound great.   

My issue is that they do not work with via bluetooth my MacPro running the latest OSX with all updates applied.   They will pair and two sound Profiles are created  "UE9000" and "UE9000 Stereo"  No sound will play through the UE9000 Stereo.  I can get sound through the UE9000 profile but it is of very poor quailyt.  They work fine with my iPhone 4s.

I spent some time with tech support and they finally gave me the answer that they are not compatible with the latest version of OSX.  Not sure if they just made this up to get me off the phone.

Can any one confirm or deny that the Logitech UE9000 does not work with the latest version of OSX via bluetooth. One of the main reasons I got them was to listen to music at work wirelessly.

Thanks! -- Steven

 

Bagheera's picture

Hello Tyll:

Sorry if this is a bit off-subject (has nothing to do with the UE6000 - only posting it here because you "retired" the K550 due to its release), but I read a lot of people on Head-Fi saying that the AKG K550 and the Audio-Technica ATH-A900X sound similar. I've been looking for a pair of good closed-back headphones to replace my aging ATH-A9X, and the user reviews for these cans varied so much I couldn't make up my mind. So I decided the best way to compare them was listen to both myself.

I ordered both cans and to my surprise, I found them completely different-sounding. The A900X is a lot more rich, full-bodied, and lively - but it doesn't color the music quite as heavily as Denons. I posted my personal findings on Head-Fi, but it doesn't seem like a lot of people hold interest in the A900X, which I find surprising considering Audio-Technica isn't a small brand and the $200-$300 price segment is popular among enthusiasts.

I was also surprised that there are literally no professional reviews done for the A900X by American reviewers - the only review of it done in English is by an European website called DigitalVersus, and I personally would like to see more professional reviews of the A900X and see if there's any consensus.  I've always really enjoyed your reviews and I am wondering if you may be in doing a review on them? I am contacting a few more audio review websites with my request as well. Personally I think they are lovely cans, and I really enjoy them - it's a shame they are so under-exposed.

NZtechfreak's picture

Bit disappointing to see the error about Apt-X is still not corrected.

SDBiotek's picture

Hi Tyll! I realize it's been a while since you wrote this review, but does the UE 6000 isolate at all with the noise canceling turned off? I'd like to find a comfortable circumaural closed back headphone I can use when travelling (including flying) that folds up, but with decent enough sound quality to use as at home. I have the Focal Spirit One and do enjoy how it sounds and the passive isolation, but I dont like how the cups press down on the edges of my ears. The UE 6000 or 9000 look like they would fit well.

Although I have tried out a few Bose headphones and found their active noise cancelling is quite good, overall I am not a fan of their somewhat muddied sound signature.

Thank you for all of the great work you do at InnerFidelity!

Tyll Hertsens's picture

Passive isolation with the 6000 is quite good.

SDBiotek's picture

Thanks, I really appreciate your input. I haven't seen them carried in my area, but maybe I'll brave the iCrowds at the Apple Store to see if they're on display.

frm0015's picture

I just bought the $199 dollar UE 6000 but was really wanting the Monster Inspirations. Actually these were a gift. In store the Inspirarions run from 299 to 349 bc of color but on best buys website you can get a plastic pair of the same headphones for 249 anyways I was wondering if you had gotten a chance to try these and If so were you impressed And would you return the UE's and go the way of the monster?

EricB's picture

Do these cans benefit from an amp?

I've read a review in which the bass in passive mode is described as too soft and dull and general sound lacks of dynamics. Treble is said to be indistinct. And then they say that sound gets noticably better when in Active mode and richer, bass is much more precise - "What?!?".

Being aware of what Tyll wrote i can't understand the aforementioned review and I have much more trust in Tyll's work and ears. But can there be such a huge difference in the subjective impressions or do the UE 6000 just need a strong source?

Many thanks in advance.

best regards

richbame's picture

Hello EricB, i have an small amp, around $20 on amazon, and the sound becomes pretty similar than with the noise cancelling on. I have  the sennheiser hd558 and is truth that the bass becomes very strong with the amp. But as i say in my opinion UE6000 doesn't need amp unless you are a bass lover. You will  notice more the amp work using a phone or mp3 than a pc or stereo.

richbame's picture

Hello Tyll!!

 

First of all, thank you because you are the reason i have the very nice Logitech UE 6000, Great sound!

 

I found a but that i dont understand, when i turn on the noise cancelling and the music is not playing or is very low i can hear a noise like hizzzzzz, Can you tell me why? is it normal or are broken? hopefully not, because these are not my first pair of noise cancelling headphones, i had first the Soul by Ludacris, the noise cancelling didnt do any weird noise, but the sound was a disaster in comparison with this, and after read your review i decided to return the Soul and get the logitech.

Help me please

Thanks!!

Tiger Woods's picture

I got a pair of the UE6000 really after reading your review of them because they sounded exactly like what I was looking for and they turned out to be even better than what I thought.  Perfect amount of bass with smooth detailed mids and highs make them a joy to listen to for long periods of time and the presentation is also good with imaging and separation.  I think they compare well next to my HD600 and HE-400 and are just a step or 2 behind imo, thanks for the review as it helped my in finding a great portable HP.

kartikk's picture

Hi Tyll

I listen mostly to stuff like pink floyd,led zepplin,porcupine tree & i would like to know which headphones you reccomend for around 100$.

Some of the stuff i have been considering are:

UE 6000

ATH m50

AKG k240

Are there other better alternatives for 100$?

Thanks :D

Shinobi's picture

Hey Tyll, did you find that the jack that plugs into the headphone comes out extremely easy or is it just me?

YTCrazyTieGuy's picture

Hello,

I have a couple of questions, if your time is limited please prioritize my headphone selection question over my EQ and crosfeed questions, sorry this post is so long,

I just wanted to be as specific as possible.

I want to buy a full size closed headphone mainly for long listening sessions at home, but very possibly for mixing amateur recordings. I might also

want to listen on buses and in slightly noisy enviroments. I will be listening out of my laptop and my sansaclip+ and i have a FiiO E5 and an audio interface in case the laptop output isn't good enough, I might buy a better DAC+amp in the future if I feel the need. The main reason why i'm asking you in person for advice is I intend to equalize my headphones using Equalizer APO and rockbox, and I had some questions.

First of all, now that the UE6000 cost $100 or less (new) on amazon, how do you feel about them compared to m50x, srh840 and focal spirit 1? Is it worth it to make the jump to the NAD Viso HP50? Keep in mind that I intend to equalize them for a more neutral sound and that comfort is important to me (i think i have average sized ears). Also, momentum are not an option for me for personal reasons.

Concerning EQ, is comparing FR measurements between the UE6000 and the various high end headphones you have reviewed (aka stax 009, LCD-3/X etc.) a reliable way of

getting a good and balanced response and are the headroom graphs also reliable? So far I think I would lower the 1k peak 2 dB, as well as use a low Q shelf to reduce

the bass 2 dB centered around 200 Hz, and also add 1 or 2 dB shelf to the treble centered around 2k Hz. Is this about right or is it too much? what would you do

differently? Also, it seems like the channels are a bit mismatched, do you think this is caused by the battery compartment or is it manufacturing discrepencies? should

i try to compensate for this?

The last topic i want to ask about is manually setting up crossfeed, as both EQ APO and rockbox let you do this. My main questions are: how should I EQ the crossfeed

signal? How should i compensate with overall EQ? What range of delays should I try? The compensation especially worries me sinse The crosfeed will definately affect

the bass response greatly. In the case of crossfeeding only frequencies below 1k Hz at full level (for the sake of discussion), is it correct to compensate with -3 dB

to those frequencies or -6 dB? Please don't hesitate to get into technical details or link to technical articles on HRTF.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this, and again I appologize it's so long.

YTCraZyTieGuy

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sorry about messing up my comment hope its not too annoying

SoundLover's picture

Hey Tyll

I enjoy your reviews so much, I am in the market to buy some top of line headphones, I mainly enjoy EDM music and want to get the best in terms of fidelity.

I am between this UE9000 and the Fostex TH900, I read other reviews about the fostex and they talk very very good about it:

http://www.bestheadphonesbest.com/fostex-th-900-audiophile-headphone/

However, I would love to read a review from you on those headphones, especially now that they are at discount over the original price.

Thanks!
John

lemonhead's picture

Hi. I'm currently trying to find the right over-ear headphones to buy. I have been looking mostly at these three products: UE 6000, Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 wired, and the Audio Technica ATH M-50x.

I cant find a decent comparison with those three. And I know you don't have a review on the Momentums. However you did mention in one of your videos that you would purchase them and give them a review. So i'm hoping you did (:

Could you give me a recommendation?

Thanks in advance

Mauro's picture

Just to share my findings with you all...
The piano EQ on iOS Music settings allows to reduce the UE6000 1kHz peak of 1.5dB and increases the 2kHz and 3KHz freq respectively of 1.5dB and 3dB. At the same time reduces bass around 125 Hz of 3dB very close to the resonant frequency of the headphone.

The result is VERY good. Voices are better rendered, less laid back (and with less contribution from throat?) and the too much present bass interferes less with voices.

Hope it helps..

by the way ue6000 is discontinued and it is super cheap. I have paid it 50€.

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